Fighting Fans

[NitroFrost]

This post is meant for those that love Fighting. Fighting is MMA, Boxing, K-1 etc. If you are a fan, God knows I love all forms of fighting, then post your name below with your fav fighter or fighters and why you love fighting. I will add you to the list so use fight fans can stay connected on this site.

My post:
I love the UFC. My fav fighters are Chuck Liddell and Cro Cop.

GT = gamer tag UN = UserName

List:
GT&UN: NitroFrost
GT&UN: xXCR0SSF1R3Xx
UN: Illidaan GT: eric0352
UN: Cisco GT: Cisco14
GT&UN: kumpster
UN: InFamousDJ (MMA Fighter)
GT&UN: TRAVxxTAZ
GT&UN: The Kobushi

[xXCR0SSF1R3Xx]

Kimbo slice is awesome

[NitroFrost]

Kimbo slice is awesome

He is fighting David "Tank" Abbott Feb. 16 on EliteXC card

[Illidaan]

Ken Shamrock. Although Round 2 Vs. Ortiz was the biggest waste of $50 I've ever spent.

He's currently the martial arts subject matter specialist for the Marine Corps down in Quantico.

[NitroFrost]

Ken Shamrock. Although Round 2 Vs. Ortiz was the biggest waste of $50 I've ever spent.

He's currently the martial arts subject matter specialist for the Marine Corps down in Quantico.



I like Ken alot but those fights with Tito I just wanted to see him Kill ortiz. Glad to hear hes helping the Marine Cor out. I have a cousin thats a marine

[Illidaan]

I like Ken alot but those fights with Tito I just wanted to see him Kill ortiz.

Yea, me too.. but the 3 Ortiz lashings were just his newsflash that he's too old to fight at a competitive level.

[poey1994]

I like it when football fans fight:D. Does that count?

[NitroFrost]

I like it when football fans fight:D. Does that count?

Umm no but if its the one ND kid who boxes then yes

[Cisco]

I like it when football fans fight:D. Does that count?
Are you talking about American football (NFL) or the proper football (soccer)?

If it's the proper football, then yes, it's definitely worth watching a good brawl in the stands between rival teams' fans lol Although I have to admit that sometimes they get a bit viscious and brutal lol

As for MMA I enjoy watching Pride FC and UFC. I'll sit down and watch a good boxing match from time to time as well.

[NitroFrost]

Are you talking about American football (NFL) or the proper football (soccer)?

If it's the proper football, then yes, it's definitely worth watching a good brawl in the stands between rival teams' fans lol Although I have to admit that sometimes they get a bit viscious and brutal lol

As for MMA I enjoy watching Pride FC and UFC. I'll sit down and watch a good boxing match from time to time as well.



You have been added to the list care to share your fav fighter

[Cisco]

You have been added to the list care to share your fav fighter
As far as MMA goes, I have to mention Cro Cop, Lidell (whom I met in Vegas 2 years ago), BJ Penn and Wanderlei Silva.

In Boxing, I have to go with some all-time greats like Ali, Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Julio Cesar Chavez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Felix Trinidad, Lennox Lewis, and Roy Jones to name a few. Always enjoyed watching them fight.

[NitroFrost]

As far as MMA goes, I have to mention Cro Cop, Lidell (whom I met in Vegas 2 years ago), BJ Penn and Wanderlei Silva.

In Boxing, I have to go with some all-time greats like Ali, Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Julio Cesar Chavez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Felix Trinidad, Lennox Lewis, and Roy Jones to name a few. Always enjoyed watching them fight.

Nice Crop cop and Wandy are awesome hope they pick up there game in the UFC an Penn and liddell seem to be doing pretty well right now Liddell coming off a big win and Penn getting a chance for the title.

[kumpster]

hearing that kimbo is gonna fight tank abbot is fricken awesome. Thats gonna be a flatout brawl. Rampage jackson is a beast, he is practically destroying the light heavyweight division. Couture is amazing for his age. Oh, and has andre arlavski had a fight in a while? what happened to him?

[NitroFrost]

Win Fabricio Werdum Decision (Unanimous) UFC 70 - Nations Collide 4/21/2007 3 5:00

that was his last match.Adre's. Forrest vs Rampage should be awesome

[kumpster]

ya that should be pretty crazy, when is forrest vs rampage happening? i can't believe brock lesner is coming to the ufc. i'm sorry, but thats hilarious, frank mir is going to tear him apart.

[InFamousDJ]

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k96/stripclubdj/l_7c0daa3c486bd5ff70ab700674b21447.jpg

This is me after my last fight. I fought Dan Severn plus i know alot of MMA fighters my boss yeah he will prob. hate me for this but his name is Bo Cantrell he just got whooped by Kimbo Slice.

[jcnet]

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k96/stripclubdj/l_7c0daa3c486bd5ff70ab700674b21447.jpg

This is me after my last fight. I fought Dan Severn plus i know alot of MMA fighters my boss yeah he will prob. hate me for this but his name is Bo Cantrell he just got whooped by Kimbo Slice.


I was about ready to call BS till I headed over to sherdog, looked up the fighting history of Severn and saw that in 2003 he fought "Gary Dudley"

*stamps big green letters that say LEGIT on his post*

[NitroFrost]

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k96/stripclubdj/l_7c0daa3c486bd5ff70ab700674b21447.jpg

This is me after my last fight. I fought Dan Severn plus i know alot of MMA fighters my boss yeah he will prob. hate me for this but his name is Bo Cantrell he just got whooped by Kimbo Slice.

Nice **** bro. Glad to see we have some actual fighters on here. I take it the Slice fight was barenuckle cuz sherdog doesn't have anything on that. What do you think about Slice vs Tank. I am thinking that Tank might come out with a W.

[jcnet]

Nice **** bro. Glad to see we have some actual fighters on here. I take it the Slice fight was barenuckle cuz sherdog doesn't have anything on that. What do you think about Slice vs Tank. I am thinking that Tank might come out with a W.


The fight with kimbo is on sherdog but kimbo slice isnt actually his name its his nickname. If you search for bo cantrell you can see his most recent fight thats the one against slice

[NitroFrost]

The fight with kimbo is on sherdog but kimbo slice isnt actually his name its his nickname. If you search for bo cantrell you can see his most recent fight thats the one against slice


Thanks for the clear up didn't know Kimbo wasn't his real name.

[kumpster]

wow, looking at tank's record, it looks like kimbo, i mean kevin, is going to knock him out pretty easily. especially since tank is like 43 years old or something. I want him to come to the ufc where there is real competition. I mean he hasn't fought anybody good yet, except for the cop that kicked his ass in that one youtube fight, but he was more tired than rocked. I want to see Kimbo versus someone like tim sylvia or cheick kongo. did anybody realize that forrest griffins first fight was against dan severn? i just thought that was pretty cool.

[NitroFrost]

I kind of what Tank to beat Kimbo because kimbos ego is pretty big and he needs to come down from that throne he thinks hes on. Sean Gannon beat him in fist fighting and he would destroy him in a cage. After seein the Gannon fight(my last name is Gannon just to let you know) I saw that the key is to let kimbo get winded so If tank lets him get tired and saves his energy then tank can get the job down, but again we haven't really seen any of Slices ground game. Should be a fight to watch. As for Silva, silva I think would destroy him, and kongo would probaly loose since hes really not a good fighter. (Cro cop shouldn't of lost that fight count how many times kongo hits him in the sack).

[Illidaan]

So what's everyone feelings on Brock Lesnar? His trainer said that in a year, there won't be a man in the sport that can beat him.

[NitroFrost]

I personaly don't like brock because of all his trash talk I don't think he has the right (nor any other fight) to just talk a fighter down. Thats just me. but Brock thinks hes going to walk though Mir and will destroy him in the process, he brushes off the fact that Mir Brock Tim Silyvas arm. I think Brock is in for a rude awaking and will get what he deserves. I think Mir will be back on track to getting his belt back but first we have to see what happenes with Tim and Big nog.

I watch wrestling every so often and I watched when brock was there and he left because he wanted more money then Vince offered him more and he said he wanted more(along with the money Vince offered him he was going to give him a jet) Brock has a huge ego and I think that he is going to get what is coming to him.

[kumpster]

i know, lesner is a duesch, i hope mir snaps his forearm in half( when mir did that to sylvia, it was fricken awesome). All lesner has is a great wrestling game, i htink he was like a 4 time champion NCAA wrestler or somehting, but Mir is a submission master, so once lesner takes him down, he's got nothing. I'm predicting submission by mir in the second round.

Kimbo needs to fight someone who knows what there doing, or isn't out of their prime, ray mercer? christ how old is he, the second guy, he had a 10-11 record or something, and now tank, who is a combination of both, he is like 43 years old, and has a 9-13 record(losing 7 out of his last 8 fights). I really want Kimbo to get beat, but unless they make him fight anybody good, its not gonna happen. I think that his endurence is probably up a lot since that gannon fight. He's training legit now, so i don't think its going to be a huge problem.

lol, Kongo definitely kicked cro cop in the nuts a lot.

[The Kobushi]

I love the ufc. I would love to take my fighting to that level but with familyand work there is no way. Plus I am 29 years old... while im in the shape I need to be in to fight, im too old to start at the bottom of the UFC (or any fight division) and work my way up. Anyhow, been fighting for about 3 years but have been in some form of martial arts since I was 7. I like Forrest Griffin. I think he has a great style and attitude to him. Plus hes a former cop and I was also a cop for several years, my wife still is one actually.

[NitroFrost]

I love the ufc. I would love to take my fighting to that level but with familyand work there is no way. Plus I am 29 years old... while im in the shape I need to be in to fight, im too old to start at the bottom of the UFC (or any fight division) and work my way up. Anyhow, been fighting for about 3 years but have been in some form of martial arts since I was 7. I like Forrest Griffin. I think he has a great style and attitude to him. Plus hes a former cop and I was also a cop for several years, my wife still is one actually.


I also like Forrest hes a beast of a fighter and I believe that he will beat Rampage when he finishes TUF

[The Kobushi]

I also like Forrest hes a beast of a fighter and I believe that he will beat Rampage when he finishes TUF

I agree. I think that rampage is over rated. Rampage is a good brawler but he is not well rounded. Forest is very well rounded and his training is amazing. They say all he does is train. From 6 am till 10pm at night. Train, eat, train. He doesnt go to parties or things like that. Just fight and family. I respect that.

[NitroFrost]

I agree. I think that rampage is over rated. Rampage is a good brawler but he is not well rounded. Forest is very well rounded and his training is amazing. They say all he does is train. From 6 am till 10pm at night. Train, eat, train. He doesnt go to parties or things like that. Just fight and family. I respect that.


Rampage is big because he knocked chuck out. I think chuck wasn't ready for that fight and he was kind of nerves because he had already lost to rampage. Rampage beat Henderson because henderson didn't have the heart to beat his close friend. If you watch that might he is so hesitent. As for Forrest his life is fighting which is awesome. He trains alot which is why he beat Shogun so easily. I think Forrest is the next big thing in the LW division he will be champ this year.

Forrest will beat Rampage for the belt
Sherk will beat BJ for the belt
Mir will beat Brock
Tim will beat BIG NOG for the belt
Chuck will beat "insert name her"
Henderson will beat Silva for the belt

Heath hearing will beat Kong because Crop would of beat him and Hearing manhandled NOG for most of that fight and Kong is not NOG.

Yushin Okami Vs. Evan Tanner = Close good match I think Tanner might be the one to stop Okami even though Tanner has 3 of 5 of his last two matches.

Kenny Florian Vs. Joe Lauzon = I think Kenny but Joe is a promising young man and will probly give a upset here.

Matt Hamill Vs. Stephan Bonnar = I don't know because Hamill should of won that Bisping match clearly and Bonnar is a great MMA fighter this should be a potential fight of the year.

so far as it stands I think Fight of the year will be
Sherk vs BJ PENN I think this because Sherk will have a tough time finishing BJ making this one go into the 4 or 5th and sherks cardeo is so amazing that he will then blow BJ away, Bj looked so winded after only 3 rd in the Stevenson fight.

and I think Cro cop will get two or three fights this year and he will win them all because he wants to prove he still has it.

[kumpster]

Stephen Bonnar isn't the same fighter he was, he is way too hesitant now. Just look at the first fight with forrest griffin in the TUF finale. He definitely won, the judges ripped him off, but besides that, he wasn't hesitant, and was just brawling, which he can do, he won golden gloves. It was probably one of the best fights i've seen, just three rounds of non stop action. The second fight, he is super hesistant and just stupid, and gets beat in a super boring overhyped rematch. But he will win because he has really good submissions and Matt Hamill(who definitely beat bisping) is just a pure wrestler, who can't do much once he gets people to the ground.

I think that forrest can beat rampage, but only if he can get him in the right position. He has to avoid the power of rampage. if he can't get in some good shots and back up, or get on top of him on the ground, he can definitely win.

I think Joe Louzan is way underated, he's definitely going to beat Kenny Florian.

[NitroFrost]

Stephen Bonnar isn't the same fighter he was, he is way too hesitant now. Just look at the first fight with forrest griffin in the TUF finale. He definitely won, the judges ripped him off, but besides that, he wasn't hesitant, and was just brawling, which he can do, he won golden gloves. It was probably one of the best fights i've seen, just three rounds of non stop action. The second fight, he is super hesistant and just stupid, and gets beat in a super boring overhyped rematch. But he will win because he has really good submissions and Matt Hamill(who definitely beat bisping) is just a pure wrestler, who can't do much once he gets people to the ground.

I think that forrest can beat rampage, but only if he can get him in the right position. He has to avoid the power of rampage. if he can't get in some good shots and back up, or get on top of him on the ground, he can definitely win.

I think Joe Louzan is way underated, he's definitely going to beat Kenny Florian.

Interesting but I will have to argue that Hamill has showen alot in his match with bisping that he can strike and take you down. If he learns good G&P and some subs on the ground then look for him to grab the win.

Any thoughts on the other predictions I made such as Sherk BJ

[kumpster]

Sherk vs. Penn could be one of the best fights of the year. BJ is amazing, and rediculously flexible, but Sherk is really strong and also a good fighter. If BJ can come into the fight with good stamina and not die out by the third or fourth round, he should probably pull out the decision or maybe even submit Sherk.

Hamill has improved a lot and showed it in the Bisping fight. He dominated Bisping and got ripped off so bad because it was in England. All he needs is just a little more technique and some submissions and he could become like the Matt Hughes of the LH division. Well, like the Matt Hughes that used to dominate the welterweight division.

What about Randy Couture, anybody think he is just getting lucky

[NitroFrost]

Sherk vs. Penn could be one of the best fights of the year. BJ is amazing, and rediculously flexible, but Sherk is really strong and also a good fighter. If BJ can come into the fight with good stamina and not die out by the third or fourth round, he should probably pull out the decision or maybe even submit Sherk.

Hamill has improved a lot and showed it in the Bisping fight. He dominated Bisping and got ripped off so bad because it was in England. All he needs is just a little more technique and some submissions and he could become like the Matt Hughes of the LH division. Well, like the Matt Hughes that used to dominate the welterweight division.

What about Randy Couture, anybody think he is just getting lucky

Sherk perdition is pretty good. Like I said I like sherk alot he is a good fighter so you could guess who I am going to be rooten for

Hamill could me the next matt hughes I think you made a good similarity there.

As for Randy being lucky NO WAY. That is skill. Randy is a top fighter he would be someone to take Fedor all the way to the last round. He is a guy, well you to me, a guy of mad respect and honor but since the whole falling out I think hes gotten a little big headed although I can't fully say since I am not him and his prioritys are what matter. Like he said the only fight that matters to him it the Fedor fight because that would prove that RC is the best HW. Randy vs Mir. Randy wins Randy vs Crop cop *swolls his pride and love for Mirko* Randy wins. Randy vs Brock Randy vs Kong vs BIG NOG vs TIM agian VS ANY HW he comes out ontop because his is a man that knows the art of Fighting and not the sport of fighting.

[The Kobushi]

I think Randy is an absolute phenom. Not just because of his age but because he is unbelievably strong and skilled. Anyone see the fight science episode covering MMA? They had Randy on there as a test subject. He held a rear naked for a full minute at full pull and actually lowered his lactic acid levels. None of the scientists there could explain how it was possible since it should have increased by about 30 percent. He hit a crash test dummy and actually broke the dang thing. Those things survive car crashes, but not Randy. They registered his ground and pound for a full minute at an average of 2000 lbs of force per hit. Worse than getting hit with a sledge hammer. What makes Randy so hard to beat is that he is a king of taking you down and getting into the ground and pound position. He actually lets you hit him for he can get in and scoop ya.

As for BJ Penn and Sherk... man... I have to give it to BJ Penn. He has been training hard. He is looking good too. I think if he can get the takedowns he will decimate Sherk.

[NitroFrost]

I think Randy is an absolute phenom. Not just because of his age but because he is unbelievably strong and skilled. Anyone see the fight science episode covering MMA? They had Randy on there as a test subject. He held a rear naked for a full minute at full pull and actually lowered his lactic acid levels. None of the scientists there could explain how it was possible since it should have increased by about 30 percent. He hit a crash test dummy and actually broke the dang thing. Those things survive car crashes, but not Randy. They registered his ground and pound for a full minute at an average of 2000 lbs of force per hit. Worse than getting hit with a sledge hammer. What makes Randy so hard to beat is that he is a king of taking you down and getting into the ground and pound position. He actually lets you hit him for he can get in and scoop ya.

As for BJ Penn and Sherk... man... I have to give it to BJ Penn. He has been training hard. He is looking good too. I think if he can get the takedowns he will decimate Sherk.

What you said about Randy is spot on couldn't of said it better myself.

As for the BJ Sherk. Sherks last fight was against Hermes Franca who is a black belt BJJ and has had 5 out of 8 wins by submission (before the fight with sherk) He has amazing tapout power and can caught people at the weirdest angels but remember Sherk was only caught in a Geaten twice when he slammed him. I think Sherk should be able to do this against BJ. Ether way this should be a Fight of the year Nod

[The Kobushi]

Beins a black belt in BJJ is not as hard as it sounds. Dont get me wrong, its no like you can achieve it a year but you could easily do it in about 5 years. Either way, it shows you know alot of BJJ. My think about Penn is that he has learned from some of the greatest BJJ masters in the world and he continues to learn and practice even today. Hes been doing BJJ for the better part of 20 years from what I understand. Thats a lot of practice. In my opinion the only people better on the ground than him would be a Gracie.

[kumpster]

i love that frank mir submitted lesner in a minute and a half, its just sooo great. I didn't see the fight, but i heard that lesner was pounding him, but then got caught in a ankle lock.

[NitroFrost]

i love that frank mir submitted lesner in a minute and a half, its just sooo great. I didn't see the fight, but i heard that lesner was pounding him, but then got caught in a ankle lock.


MIR VS BROCK (http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/2008/02/02/brock-lesnar-vs-frank-mir-video-ufc-81-breaking-point/)

There it is in all its glory. To bad the audio is off but its still pretty awesome. Subscribe to there daily email they send you all there new vids that day. They have all of yesterdays fights up. last night 3 subs by guillotine choke WOW only 1 fight didn't air that mean PPV buyers got 8 fights.

Mir vs NOG for the title will be AWESOME there ground games put to the test. Although we have to see whats going to happen to the belt after all but Mir winning was awesome and Tim almost had NOG but yet again NOG takes the punishment then comes out of no were and gets the WIN.

[Illidaan]

That 'time out' the ref gave mir was BS. that saved his ass. lesnar destroyed him. but I gotta' hand it to mere for hanging tough and staying coherent enough to throw on an ankle lock after such a thrashing.

[kumpster]

Thanks for the vid. wow, lesner was dominating, and really only made one little mistake, and he paid for it. I can't believe he got a point taken off for only one shot to the back of the head, no warning at all.

why is NOG the champion? cause they were saying that he is the first person to hold both pride and ufc belts at the same time. I thought couture was champ, and on ufc.com it still has couture as the champion. but i saw like two different little articles that said NOG is champ of both. Is NOG going against couture now, or does he have to fight Mir for the title shot? if so, that could be a damn good fight.

[NitroFrost]

The time out was right because Frank took more then one to the back of the head and Steve explained the rules to both fighters. Its good that he did this because we don't want Brock thinking he could get away with a few head shoots to the back before he will be warning. he knew the precautions.

Nog is the interim Champ Randy is the Champ. Randy will not fight NOG cuz all he wants is Fedor. Same thing with GPS and Matt Siera. Matt is the Champ and GPS is the Interim.

[kumpster]

I know we haven't really discussed boxing at all on this thread, but it is fighting, soo.....
What does everybody think about the upcoming taylor vs. pavlik 2. I personally think kelly pavlik will knock him out again in like the 4 or 5 round. He's stronger and quick too, taylor just has speed but no power.

[NitroFrost]

I would be going with Pavlik since hes from youngstown and I am from Cleveland so he sort is a hometown hero.

[kumpster]

As expected, Kimbo knocked out tank, just landing bombs on him. the thing that got me mad is the announcers, they think that kimbo is god. THe one announcver said, (not exact quote) " BEfore the fights, Kimbo had many critics, but know he has shut them up". OK, no he hasn't shut any critics up, he's fought two people with LOSING RECORDS. christ, tank is in his forties, and was never even that good. The other guy was like 10-11 or 10-10 going into the fight. Him winning is not a big deal.

[NitroFrost]

Elite XC is Kimbo nut huggers and pretty much sherdog if you look at there site hes plastered everywere. Also the intro for kimbo was he is a "Legendary" Street fighter. Legend my ass he is a novelty that would get his ass kicked by Fedor, Cro Cop, Randy, MIR, Big Nog, Tim S, and pretty much all the UFC HW. Kimbo stay in EliteXC cuz that the only place your going to get wins ( brock could be him).

[kumpster]

Elite XC is Kimbo nut huggers and pretty much sherdog if you look at there site hes plastered everywere. Also the intro for kimbo was he is a "Legendary" Street fighter. Legend my ass he is a novelty that would get his ass kicked by Fedor, Cro Cop, Randy, MIR, Big Nog, Tim S, and pretty much all the UFC HW. Kimbo stay in EliteXC cuz that the only place your going to get wins ( brock could be him).

lol, ya they defintiely do love kimbo. I think all of the top ten heavyweights in the ufc could beat him, he really isn't that good. He does have good boxing and a jaw of steel, but nothing other wise.

[TRAVxxTAZ]

Im a big fan of UFC,I was at UFC 68 and 77

UFC 68 was the Best sports event ive ever been too,Randy was dominating and just taking his good o' time while Tim was Tired and could Barley walk another step.The whole place was standing up on there feet and cheering for him.When he won the place just went crazy!

At UFC 77 Silva just DOMINATED Franklin,Silva was just takin his time and making Franklin Frustrated.He dodged just about everything that was thrown at him.

Im also going to the coming up UFC 82 which looks like its going to be a good one :D

And about Lesnar....

He looked amazing with his throws,he should have just let Mir up everytime he was on the ground..BUT NOOOOOO,he basically gave Mir the win,he has to be smarter than that when hes fighting people who have experiance like that.

WEC is pretty cool to,That little guy ("The California Kid" I forget his real name:confused:)Is one tough fighter,it amazed me when i first saw him which was like 2 weeks ago;)

[NitroFrost]

WEC is pretty cool to,That little guy ("The California Kid" I forget his real name:confused:)Is one tough fighter,it amazed me when i first saw him which was like 2 weeks ago;)

Uriah Faber is who your talking about (I am pretty sure I didn't spell the first name right.) I am pretty sure Jens Pulver is in the same WC as him and I personally like little evil more then Faber so I could see Pulver winning since he is undefeated at that weight. WEC is good personally I love any ORG that is a MMA one just cuz I love fighting. I dont like these people says yes DREAM is the New PRIDE when PRIDE is dead and DREAM is a new DREAM lol.

O and Brock is a NOOB Mir is a better fight Brock just needs time. I think this will happen

Brock vs Kimbo JKJKJK.

[TRAVxxTAZ]

^Agreed about Brock,i thought he wouldve just let Mir up tho...
Here is that "California Kid" guy and he is one Bad*** guy:

http://www.wec.tv/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=539
I would love to see the match he lost

[NitroFrost]

^Agreed about Brock,i thought he wouldve just let Mir up tho...
Here is that "California Kid" guy and he is one Bad*** guy:

http://www.wec.tv/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=539
I would love to see the match he lost

His last fight was a close one I believe he got caught in a triangle and was saved by the bell, then got a armbar on Curran in the 2nd.

[kumpster]

does anybody think kimbo will come to the ufc after his contract,(i have no clue for how many fights) with Elite XC is up? I don't see how Dana White wouldn't want to sign him for some fights, he's now becoming a big name(not that he's actually good or anything). I think Kimbo is a competitor, and a money hungry bastard, and the UFC can offer both, its a perfect match.(plus i really want to see him get his ass kicked)

[NitroFrost]

does anybody think kimbo will come to the ufc after his contract,(i have no clue for how many fights) with Elite XC is up? I don't see how Dana White wouldn't want to sign him for some fights, he's now becoming a big name(not that he's actually good or anything). I think Kimbo is a competitor, and a money hungry bastard, and the UFC can offer both, its a perfect match.(plus i really want to see him get his ass kicked)

I would also like to see Kimbo get KTFO much like Sean Gannon did to him(boy I love saying that name [ask me if you don't know]). I don't think Dana wants to make another risky move again like making brock out to be the next big thing and he gets subed in a few mins. I wanted tank to KO Kimbo because everyone was making it such a big thing when all Kimbo does is street fights no buddys and if hes starting to loose his posse of *****es comes in to save him although GANNON was to much for them.:lol:

[The Kobushi]

I dont see Dana spending time on Kimbo because he is of the same opinion we are. He is not going to waste time and effort on a "fad". Kimbo's popularity is great in Elite XC but in the real world of MMA he is not that great. Kimbos' popularity will soon begin to fade and his "15 minutes" will have come and gone.

[NitroFrost]

I dont see Dana spending time on Kimbo because he is of the same opinion we are. He is not going to waste time and effort on a "fad". Kimbo's popularity is great in Elite XC but in the real world of MMA he is not that great. Kimbos' popularity will soon begin to fade and his "15 minutes" will have come and gone.

Sorry man forgot to add you to the list anyways its fixed.

OO and about kimbo couldn't of said it better myself.

Did you hear that Kimbo said he wanted to fight Tyson. I don't care how old Mike is he would kill kimbo.

[kumpster]

kimbo vs. tyson, lmao. That would be fricken hilarious. I would probably pay to see that on pay per view. add that in with a couple other good fights, and i'll be ordering it. That fight will never happen though.

UFC: 82
This card is stacked, there is someone i want to really see fight in every single fight. Silva will hopefully get beat, cause i hate him so bad. Heath Herring will probably get beat by Kongo(who is overated). Sakara vs. Leben, tossup. Evan Tanner vs. Okami, i'm taking tanner on that one. And my two favorite fights, just because i love the people in them, Andre Arlovski, and Luke Cummo(who is way underrated)

[The Kobushi]

Tyson vs Kimbo Somehow that just seems like a perfect fight. Two morons.... two thugs... two losers... just makes sense to put them together and see who comes out on top (tyson) and is allowed to go on with life. Yea, thats right, it should be a caged death match. :) Tyson can beat Kimbo down then eat him.

[kumpster]

Poor Ken Shamrock, he should just stop fighting. he's so bad, i love him, but he's too old now and is just bad. who knows what his plan going into that fight was, but it wasn't a good one, thats for sure. he only tried to take the guy down once, and then attempted to punch with him, and look where it got him, tko'd.

[NitroFrost]

Poor Ken Shamrock, he should just stop fighting. he's so bad, i love him, but he's too old now and is just bad. who knows what his plan going into that fight was, but it wasn't a good one, thats for sure. he only tried to take the guy down once, and then attempted to punch with him, and look where it got him, tko'd.

Did u hear what the guy he fought said (this is the only part of the fight i saw I keep seeing it right at the interview part and thats it) He said Ken is moving to HW. I think he can do it, I really don't think he cares if he losses he just wants to fight and that one reason why I love the guy

[TRAVxxTAZ]

Brock Lesnar VS Mark Coleman!!!

Its going to happen!!!

[kumpster]

Did u hear what the guy he fought said (this is the only part of the fight i saw I keep seeing it right at the interview part and thats it) He said Ken is moving to HW. I think he can do it, I really don't think he cares if he losses he just wants to fight and that one reason why I love the guy

he was fighting that fight at heavyweight, he was like 215 or something and the other guy was like 240. Its pretty obvious he doesn't mind losing, lol, it seems like his strategy lately has been to break the other guys hands with his head(it hasn't been working too good).

[NitroFrost]

Brock Lesnar VS Mark Coleman!!!

Its going to happen!!!

I predict Coleman but anything brock is going to loss.

[TRAVxxTAZ]

I think it will be a close fight because both of them have the same styles(ground and pound) ...... who ever gets a full mount is going to win

[Yappa305]

Im more boxing, yes ufc is cool, but i like boxing more, because it is more...of a sport, because it is controlled and for fun...and because i box =)

ufc just wants to see who can hurt who the worse, and to me thats not a sport, and i know ima get internet beat up for this but its my thoughts about it...

but ya kimbo is a beast, he used to always be on south beach down here, aint seen him as much any more..

but my favorite boxers are...

Muhammad Ali-greatest of all time
Winky Wright-an awesome all around boxer
Floyd Mayweather-his attitude needs work, but he does work n the ring

just my top 3 favorites

[NitroFrost]

Im more boxing, yes ufc is cool, but i like boxing more, because it is more...of a sport, because it is controlled and for fun...and because i box =)

ufc just wants to see who can hurt who the worse, and to me thats not a sport, and i know ima get internet beat up for this but its my thoughts about it...

but ya kimbo is a beast, he used to always be on south beach down here, aint seen him as much any more..

but my favorite boxers are...

Muhammad Ali-greatest of all time
Winky Wright-an awesome all around boxer
Floyd Mayweather-his attitude needs work, but he does work n the ring

just my top 3 favorites

Well I am sure everyone here will respect your opionin on the subject of MMA, but my I suggest you look into to it more. Its not about hitting the guy its about winning the match. This is true in any form of fighting its a art. MMA is a hell-of-alot more controlled then what it used to be(UFC1 compared to UFC now). MMA is truely a beautiful form of fighting that purtras a aspect of fighting that is BJJ Boxing Muay Thai Judo, and more. I love boxing as well just MMA more.

fav boxer is The KlicCo Family and Mike Tyson.

O and Floyd Mayweather I tend to not like because he is the self proclaim best fighter in the Whole. This is not true maybe best boxer at his weight but not best fighter.

Well I hope you can fuel some boxing discussion on this thread since the most part its been all MMA.

Cheers and happy (late) ST. Patties

[kumpster]

Im more boxing, yes ufc is cool, but i like boxing more, because it is more...of a sport, because it is controlled and for fun...and because i box =)

ufc just wants to see who can hurt who the worse, and to me thats not a sport, and i know ima get internet beat up for this but its my thoughts about it...

I'm a little confused here, how is boxing more of a sport and more controlled, and not about who can just hurt the guy worse. Ok, with the exception of your fast but weak decision winning fighters, most boxers r looking to knock the other guys head off. In MMA, you could in theory, win without throwing a punch, by submitting a person, although highly unlikely, its still possible. Your just put in the ring to soley punch the other guy in the face and abdomin, nothing else. No holding him, kicking, takedowns, just stand in front of each other and punch the other guy(don't take that out of context) The only reason it looks more "controlled" today is because of the big gloves they wear. They wear these gloves because people don't want to see a two round fight every night. They want to see 10 rounds of guys standing in front of each other just whaling away at each other. More of a sport, no i don't think so, its more of a strict punching match. MMA is way more complicated and engaging, requiring years of tough training and vast knowledge of different martial arts, not just how to punch another person. I respect your opinion, i just think its wrong, i do agree that boxing is probably more fun to do, since no one likes to get slammed and elbowed, i'd much rather get hit with a glove.

[NitroFrost]

you could in theory, win without throwing a punch, by submitting a person, although highly unlikely, its still possible.

JENS LITTLE EVIL PULLER shoots on the guy and then anaconda choke

[NitroFrost]

I'm a little confused here, how is boxing more of a sport and more controlled, and not about who can just hurt the guy worse. Ok, with the exception of your fast but weak decision winning fighters, most boxers r looking to knock the other guys head off. In MMA, you could in theory, win without throwing a punch, by submitting a person, although highly unlikely, its still possible. Your just put in the ring to soley punch the other guy in the face and abdomin, nothing else. No holding him, kicking, takedowns, just stand in front of each other and punch the other guy(don't take that out of context) The only reason it looks more "controlled" today is because of the big gloves they wear. They wear these gloves because people don't want to see a two round fight every night. They want to see 10 rounds of guys standing in front of each other just whaling away at each other. More of a sport, no i don't think so, its more of a strict punching match. MMA is way more complicated and engaging, requiring years of tough training and vast knowledge of different martial arts, not just how to punch another person. I respect your opinion, i just think its wrong, i do agree that boxing is probably more fun to do, since no one likes to get slammed and elbowed, i'd much rather get hit with a glove.

I wanted to be the blunt but I decided to allow you to do it for me.

[kumpster]

I wanted to be the blunt but I decided to allow you to do it for me.

lol, thanks for allowing me. I must see this jens pulver fight, that had to be funny.

[NitroFrost]

lol, thanks for allowing me. I must see this jens pulver fight, that had to be funny.


http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/2007/12/13/jens-pulver-vs-cub-swanson-wec/

I bring to you the No punches just a shoot that went bad. This is how you get work. Little Evil.

[kumpster]

http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/2007/12/13/jens-pulver-vs-cub-swanson-wec/

I bring to you the No punches just a shoot that went bad. This is how you get work. Little Evil.
wow, that was really no punches, almost a knee by the other guy, but no, just some wrestling and a choke, never thought i would ever see it, but it happened, and by a well known fighter.

[NitroFrost]

wow, that was really no punches, almost a knee by the other guy, but no, just some wrestling and a choke, never thought i would ever see it, but it happened, and by a well known fighter.

Faber vs Pulver for the Belt. I got Pulver winning it.

[kumpster]

Probably Pulver in that one.

I just watched Kung Le vs. Frank Shamrock. Such a great fight, love those kinds of fights, Le would land somehting, Shamrock would smile and laugh at him, it was just going back an forth. But then after repeated hard high kicks Le broke Shamrock's arm, so after the third round he had to throw in the towel. wow, breaking his arm with kicks, that guy can throw some hard kicks.

[madnessbailey]

Well, here are my faves...

Emil Kostov - Kyokushinkai Karate

Francisco Filho - Kyokushinkai Karate + he is also K-1 Champion

Andreas (Andy) Hug - Kyokushinkaikan + he is also K-1 champion

Andreas Hug died on 24-08-2000.


Thanks

[kumpster]

is it just me or are the lightweight and welterweight fights the most exciting in the UFC. It just seems like they are always the craziest fights, especially lightweight.

[NitroFrost]

Well they tend to have more cardio so they can last longer. I agree and somewhat disagree. HW's can make some sweet fights as well, well manly the pride heavey weight fights. The Tom nog was a goody and the Tim Randy was awesome.

[kumpster]

anyone have any predictions on bj vs. sherk coming up soon. i mean i think bj could take him if he has good cardio but sherk is pretty crazy, and always has good cardio so its a toss up for me. i just want to see spencer fisher vs bj, because i think spencer fisher is pretty awesome.

[NitroFrost]

Well first off I have to say Mir vs NOG as coaches for TUF is awesome

on topic

Sherk will beat bj I hope. Sherk is a good guy that doesn't break a rule in my book. Trash talking, something I ****ing hate. BJ said right after the Tyson fight Sherk I m going to kill you. Sherk is a great guy and I see him talking Bj to the ground at GP'in him or standing up and kicking his ass. I just want bj to take a dirt nap and stop talking ****, sherk was tested postive for steroids. if daina believes that sherk isn't on roids then he not on roids and Cal's testing is bull****.


to to the point Sherk wins. I want to see Bj loss via triangle just cuz its bj but it will not happen.

[kumpster]

Well first off I have to say Mir vs NOG as coaches for TUF is awesome

on topic

Sherk will beat bj I hope. Sherk is a good guy that doesn't break a rule in my book. Trash talking, something I ****ing hate. BJ said right after the Tyson fight Sherk I m going to kill you. Sherk is a great guy and I see him talking Bj to the ground at GP'in him or standing up and kicking his ass. I just want bj to take a dirt nap and stop talking ****, sherk was tested postive for steroids. if daina believes that sherk isn't on roids then he not on roids and Cal's testing is bull****.


to to the point Sherk wins. I want to see Bj loss via triangle just cuz its bj but it will not happen.

lol, ya bj does talk mad sh*t all the time. i like watching him fight, but not him as a person. same reason why i don't like hughes, total duechbag. a good example of a good guy thats a good fighter too is GSP, i mean he's an amazing fighter and a really classy guy. i was wondering about that whole sherk steroid thing, that is weird, i dont get why sherk would ever do it anyway, he works out enough in the first place. Its not like stephen bonnar who i could definitely see using steroids, because he's dumb, the reason he wasn't doing good is because he wasn't taking any chances, maybe if he would loosen up and fight more like bonnar griffin 1 instead of bonnar griffin 2.

But anyway back to the subject, ya i would want sherk to win because bj is a duechbag too. maybe a jawbreaking right hook.

[NitroFrost]

Now your talking my lingo. Sherk is a classy guy, GSP is class, I don't know much about Mir before the brock fight but about the fight he was classy, JZ seems like a classy guy. I think Wandy is classy to but then again I really didn't read much on his interviews and such.

Classy fighters the the best fighters in my book, because they bring a good vibe to the art (not sport). The sport is MMA the art is Martial arts. I love martial arts. Martial arts is about respecting everyone no matter what, ever man deserves respect. I would never trash talk my oppenent in the ring. That is why boxing ****es me off so much, you have these show boaters that taunt there oppenent, smile, make hand gestures, just plan disrespect. I think that all fighters show bow before a match to one another and also to the ref, this would eliminate the cheep shots that people like to take(manny gaberian TUF fighter that lost to DIAZ) A fighter extends his hand to touch gloves to show respect and love, and when someone take a cheep shot at that he is despicable and I wouldn't allow them to fight in my org, but thats me. This next few sentences will sound retarded but in sense they mean something.

Another thing I hate is when a fighter wishes pain on another fighter. Not the normal push kick chokes that are legall. The sh it that goes down like after the ref calls the fight. Take for example Babul and his last fight in the UFC. He said the fighter disrespected him so he held a anaconda choke until the fighter blacked out. That is the type of pain I am talking about, wanting to hurt another fighter. I hate seeing guys take it after the bell or take it after the fight is done, and I hate it when someone talks **** in the post fight interview.

back on topic that was some reasons that I don't like BJ.

Point being don't call the sport MMA Mixed Martial Arts with you don't uphold the traditions of Martial Arts, one being respect.

[LegitLostLegend]

I like all types of fighting don't watch too much though. I especially enjoy watchin fights in real life, which rarely happens in schhol

[kumpster]

Another thing I hate is when a fighter wishes pain on another fighter. Not the normal push kick chokes that are legall. The sh it that goes down like after the ref calls the fight. Take for example Babul and his last fight in the UFC. He said the fighter disrespected him so he held a anaconda choke until the fighter blacked out. That is the type of pain I am talking about, wanting to hurt another fighter. I hate seeing guys take it after the bell or take it after the fight is done, and I hate it when someone talks **** in the post fight interview.
.


Hit the nail on the head there, i HATE that sh*t. like when somebody is out cold like dead flat face on the ground and people get in a few hard shots before the ref breaks it up. they knew it was over, but no, they have to be duechbags because they have no respect or honor. sobral really ****ed me off, when i heard then saw him hold that choke i wanted to find him and beat the **** out of him, i'm happy chuck knocked his b*tch a$$ out cold twice, that guy shouldn't be allowed in the ufc anymore, theres plenty more light heavies that are way better than him anyway. back to the cheap shots, talk about a real A$shole, ROYCE GRACIE. i really respected him, until i actually saw his fights, i had heard what a great and honorable fighter he was, bull****. he held every submission far longer than he should of, the ref had to pull at him for at least 4 to 5 seconds to get him off. i remember one specifically where he actually broke the guys arm because he didn't let go, it was partially the refs fault for not getting over there quick enough, but the guy tapped like 10 times before royce let go. i was happy when hughes, also a duech lol, stretched him out and pounded him.

[kumpster]

I like all types of fighting don't watch too much though. I especially enjoy watchin fights in real life, which rarely happens in schhol

fights in real life can really **** me off sometimes, especially when i see youtube fights or something. when people go to stomp the head i want to beat the sh*t out of them, stomping on the head is the biggest p*ssy move ever. other than that and kicking to the ribs, which is pretty cheap too, real fights can be interesting to watch.

[NitroFrost]

First to Lost@

I use to like street fights but they are all stupid and retarded when its just both people fighting one another for no reason at all. If I was in a bar and a guy was hitting on my lady and they guy took it to far like grabbed her breast I would ask him to meet me in the parking lot thats it not fight him right there or talk **** and say lets take this out side *bit*ch. If the street fight is legit(no pwn inteded), has a reason and not some stupid retarded you hit me with paper or something and both fighters fight with honer then it may be a good fight, If and only if they leave everything in the fight and don't take it out of the ring after words.

number 2 to Kumpster@

If you dis-honor a fighter in my book you should stop practicing the art because you ether forgot or never knew the 'roots' of Martial arts, Respect and Honor


Edit: my last thing to Kumpster

I guess I shouldn't say stop I should say go back to your roots and find what the art is about.

[LegitLostLegend]

fights in real life can really **** me off sometimes, especially when i see youtube fights or something. when people go to stomp the head i want to beat the sh*t out of them, stomping on the head is the biggest p*ssy move ever. other than that and kicking to the ribs, which is pretty cheap too, real fights can be interesting to watch.

No I'm not talking about that, I'm talking straight up fist fights. And the gayest thing is when it's like 10 on 1

[NitroFrost]

No I'm not talking about that, I'm talking straight up fist fights. And the gayest thing is when it's like 10 on 1

Like I said I really don't like them cuz there isn't much there for honor and respect most the time just alot of people talking trash. Although now and again you can see a street fight that people do show respect and honor, That is my opinion.

[NitroFrost]

Well haven't seen much in here lately but thought I would drop by and say a few

One Kimbo's fight was stupid ****. One Kimbo has horrible everything but striking in the first few min once he gets winded his speed is nothing any fighter with good cardo will kill him.

BJ vs Sherk was bull **** since when did BJ become a ref and call his own fights F BJ.

Jens vs Faber haven't seen yet but did read a few about it some stuff I read was it could have been fixed, or faber just was a beast.


Well guys keep this thread going I am counting on you.

[kumpster]

Well haven't seen much in here lately but thought I would drop by and say a few

One Kimbo's fight was stupid ****. One Kimbo has horrible everything but striking in the first few min once he gets winded his speed is nothing any fighter with good cardo will kill him.

BJ vs Sherk was bull **** since when did BJ become a ref and call his own fights F BJ.

Jens vs Faber haven't seen yet but did read a few about it some stuff I read was it could have been fixed, or faber just was a beast.


Well guys keep this thread going I am counting on you.

kimbo really disapointed me. i expected way better cardio and some decent beginner ground game, but that was a disgrace. i don't know if he just doesn't listen to bas rutten when he's training him, but man he looked horrible.

i didn't see bj sherk, so nothing there.

faber vs pulver was a good but one sided fight. the whole fixed thing isn't a total crazy idea, every time jens hit him with a good one two combo, he backed off for literally about a good 8 seconds before throwing another punch. but faber did look like a beast though, so who knows. i can't see pulver throwing it.

[NitroFrost]

So after the TUF finally what you guys think. First off The winner of TUF how you think that went I mean did he tap, O I say he was checking his arm to fell it out cuz it could snap but he slapped it like a tap and Herb Dean has been around the block to know that if you don't get a fighter out of a armbar like dat quick then it will be broken in half like Mir did to big Tim.

The groves fight ****ed me off cuz I don't like Kendel at all he was overated and hes a BJ nuthugger which I hate.

The next coaches of TUF will be Mir and BIG NOG but the question here is why not do HW not LHW and LW WTF. Mir and Nog should be training some HW I mean come on there isn't alot of talent in that pool in the UFC to begin with so they need some fresh meat. plus the last HW TUF was like in the 3rd season and there on what the 7th.

PS get this thread moving guys I want this being the #1 Sports thread on this site. COME ON

[kumpster]

So after the TUF finally what you guys think. First off The winner of TUF how you think that went I mean did he tap, O I say he was checking his arm to fell it out cuz it could snap but he slapped it like a tap and Herb Dean has been around the block to know that if you don't get a fighter out of a armbar like dat quick then it will be broken in half like Mir did to big Tim.

The groves fight ****ed me off cuz I don't like Kendel at all he was overated and hes a BJ nuthugger which I hate.

The next coaches of TUF will be Mir and BIG NOG but the question here is why not do HW not LHW and LW WTF. Mir and Nog should be training some HW I mean come on there isn't alot of talent in that pool in the UFC to begin with so they need some fresh meat. plus the last HW TUF was like in the 3rd season and there on what the 7th.

PS get this thread moving guys I want this being the #1 Sports thread on this site. COME ON

ya he definitely tapped lol, when i saw him getting mad and acting like he didn't tap i was laughin my ass off.

F*CK KENDAL GROVE, he's overated as hell, is cocky as sh*t, and sucks.

ya it is weird about not doing a heavyweight competition, the only thing i can think is that there wasn't a huge amount of heavyweight prospects or that they just think doing LHW and LW is more exciting. it confuses the sh*t out of me too, i mean u don't need more LHW's, that division is stacked already, and so is LW.

[NitroFrost]

the only division that isn't stacked in UFC is the HW division since Tim and Arloski plus Courture leaving there isn't much most the pride guys are gone and by that I mean Cro cop which only won 1 fight. Kong sux Heath is the good underdog, Brock is teh suck, Gonzaga was a one trick pony when he got man handled, Mir is the top fighter next to NOG and then there is.......there is... And thats it thats were it ends, we need big guys in the UFC.

Jeff monsoon would be nice to have back, Hell get Ken shamrock back since hes moved up to HW.They need more talent.

[NitroFrost]

Forrest Griffon New LW CHAMP

[kumpster]

FORREST VS. RAMPAGE

ok, so i didn't see the fight on paperview or anything, and i read a few articles about the controversy and that rampages trainer is complaining to the las vegas board of whatever the f*ck. he was saying that the scoring was bull**** and forrest didn't win by that much (48-46, 48-46, 49-46).

so after reading that, my ass went right on to google and found a video to watch that fight.
ok, so first round, forrest is winning pretty clearly, but not huge, then rampage drops him, and should have finished it, but he was too cautious and took his time moving to the cage. the only debate here, at least i think is, 10-9 or 10-8 for rampage.

second round, forrest straight up dominates, 10-8 clearly

in the third through fifth, which i can't remember too too well, it was kind of even, i know rampage won the third or fourth(my ****ty memory isnt helping right now) and forrest definitely won the fifth pretty easily just from punches thrown and aggressiveness.

EDIT( i just forgot to finish it lol)
so after all five rounds, lets score it. heres some possibilities:

- Rampages first Forrests second
- 10-8, 8-10, 9-10, 10-9, 9-10 which makes it 46-47 in favor of forrest
- 10-8, 8-10, 9-10, 10-9, 9-10

I'll edit this later to finish, have to go right now

[NitroFrost]

Yea sherdog is a bunch of Rampage nuthuggers and everyone on those forums all say Forrest lost thats cuz they hate TUF and everyone from it. straight up Forrest won it was a tough fight to score but Forrest won in my eyes the first second fourth and fifth. One rock which like forrest said didn't rock him that bad doesn't count as being a win since Forrest was the aggressor the whole first but 1 or 2 scuffles.

Forrest won Rampage lost

BJ won Sherk lost in my eyes Sherk shouldn't of fought BJ first fight back and also BJ shouldn't have called the match Steve should have made that decision not BJ but life goes on and the decisions were made.

[kumpster]

finished from above
^

- 10-9, 8-10, 10-9, 10-9, 9-10 making it 47-47 draw
- 10-9, 8-10, 9-10, 9-10, 9-10 making it 45-49 for forrest

those seem like the possibilities, but i would have to go with the first one having forrest win by one point, i think forrest was overall more dominant, and i like both fighters, forrest is funny and a damn good fighter and rampage is the same way. rampage just seemed really cautious the whole fight, not like his usual explosive self. Forrest was very smart the whole fight and just seemed to put rampage out of his gameplan, and the leg kicks were nasty.
and forrest is the man because he was part of the best UFC fight i've ever seen, bonnar vs. forrest on the finale of the first ultimate fighter show. even though bonnar definitely won that fight and got ripped off bad, it was so epic, just a three round brawl, something you never really see anymore.

[kumpster]

ok, i didn't know much about bas rutten, but after watching as many videos as i could, he's the man. he's funny as ****, was a good ass fighter, and is just awesome. although unfortunately he's training kimbo now, who doesn't listen to a word he says, he's still the man.

if u haven't seen this video, its hilarious, and educational lol.
heres the link:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y

[kumpster]

sorry that this makes three posts in a row by me

just to clear up, i'm probably more of a forrest fan than a rampage fan, but i like both of them, and a rematch will be awesome, especially since i doubt rampage is gonna make the same mistakes again, and maybe he'll fight like the beast he usually fights like. but then again, forrest might still win, since he's just so talented

i just heard that douchebag of the century, anderson silva, is now moving up to light heavyweight since theres no competition(i'm assuming) in the middleweight division. he's fighting james "the sandman" irvin, who is a pretty good fighter.

if silva thinks that he can honestly win or come close to winning the light heavyweight title, he's a f*cking dumb@ss, theres no was in hell he's gonna beat any of the light heavyweight elite. light heavyweight division is probably the most stacked division in the ufc, he might win a few here and there, but he should just stay down in middleweight. better yet, he should stay in l hw and just lose every fight badly, because i f*cking hate him.

i hate him because he's cocky, is a show off, and does unnecessary **** to punish people. like in the one rich franklin fight, he was pretty much out, just standing up wobbling, and instead of throwing a few punches or something, no, he grabs him and knees and does chuck norris spinning back kicks to him like a f*cking asshole, it was unnecesary, and he beat rich franklin who i like a lot, so f*ck silva, i hope he gets his a$s kicked.

[NitroFrost]

Well I necessarily don't like Silva to much but he has beaten alot of people they gave him unfortantly he is in a division that doesn't have to much to offer at least in the UFC Irvin is a good first fight because Irivin can win after that if he does loss he might go running back to the mw division.

[kumpster]

ok, i hate anderson silva, but i've finally come to the overall realization that he's the best middleweight in the world and probably pound for pound the best along with fedor who flat out destroyed tim sylvia in like 30 seconds. silva just never makes a mistake and if u make even the tiniest mistake he hits you hard with a precise strike exactly where he wants it. not just saying this because of the irvin fight.

oh and is it just me or does it look like irvin layed down for silva, like that punch was right on the eye, but enough to rock him? i don't think so

[WonkyBilly boy]

Anyone watch Sanchez Vs Stevenson? I think Joe "Daddy" performed awful.

[ForMaL]

I love MMA. My GT is Ik0n XX.

My favorite fighters are Forest Griffin, Rashad Evans, Shogun, GSP, and Kevin Randleman.

[jackx289]

I watched a few fights from UFC 96. I enjoyed them but the refing in one of them was exceptionally poor. I mean the guy who was winning didn't want to keep hitting the guy, it was truely poor.

[WonkyBilly boy]

I watched a few fights from UFC 96. I enjoyed them but the refing in one of them was exceptionally poor. I mean the guy who was winning didn't want to keep hitting the guy, it was truely poor.

yeah when i saw that same ref was doing the main card im like uh oh

[Qwark]

I watched a few fights from UFC 96. I enjoyed them but the refing in one of them was exceptionally poor. I mean the guy who was winning didn't want to keep hitting the guy, it was truely poor.

Are you talking about Matt Brown vs. Pete Sell? I put this up on YouTube a couple of days ago. If so the ref you're talking about is Yves Lavigne.

[Rolandicus]

Nick Diaz vs Frank Shamrock Saturday night !! I hope Shamrock knocks his ass out!I like Diaz,but I don't think he respects Shamrock as much as he should.

[Qwark]

Nick Diaz vs Frank Shamrock Saturday night !! I hope Shamrock knocks his ass out!I like Diaz,but I don't think he respects Shamrock as much as he should.

Agreed, Diaz does not have good enough striking to hang with Shamrock.

[jackx289]

I'm glad that Lesnar will be back in action at UFC 100. I like watching him fight although he does have a distinct size advantage over pretty much everyone.

[Qwark]

I want to see Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin. If you don't know who Carwin is you should look him up, great fighter.

[Rolandicus]

Benji Radach and Scott Smith was by far the fight of the night.Do yourself a favor and watch it.

[jackx289]

Benji Radach and Scott Smith was by far the fight of the night.Do yourself a favor and watch it.

I just watched it that was a good fight. The other day I watched the TUF finale fight the ending to that is pretty good =D



Agreed, Diaz does not have good enough striking to hang with Shamrock.


Frank got smashed.

[Rolandicus]

Frank got smashed.

Yes he did.He should probably think about retirement if he can't come to fight with more than he showed.Diaz dominated him.He's a legend,but there comes a time when even the best and brightest fade.

[jackx289]

Yes he did.He should probably think about retirement if he can't come to fight with more than he showed.Diaz dominated him.He's a legend,but there comes a time when even the best and brightest fade.

Agreed.
Chuck Lidell Fights on Saturday. Should show whether he should consider retiring too =D

Also if anyone is interested about where I watch the vids PM me and i'll PM you the link.

[Qwark]

I just watched it that was a good fight. The other day I watched the TUF finale fight the ending to that is pretty good =D



Frank got smashed.

Yeah, I didn't think Diaz's reach would be that much of a factor for Frank.:(

[jackx289]

I just watched Shogun v Lidell. Not a great fight and if you wanna know the result I'll put it a few lines down in white so if you haven't seen the fight I don't spoil it for you.






Shogun won in the first round, Lidell did look like he may have pulled it off at times but he didnt

I also just watched the silva fight. The crowd didn't like it but hey they aren't in the octagon in that situation. You fight how you need to fight to win.

[Qwark]

jackx289, how was Shogun vs. Liddell a bad fight?:confused:

[jackx289]

I didn't mean it was a bad fight but it wasn't one of the greatest fights really.

[Rolandicus]

Silva needs some better competition or people are going to lose interest.The crowd booed him last night.He's a good fighter,but hasn't really been challenged in a while.

[jackx289]

Silva needs some better competition or people are going to lose interest.The crowd booed him last night.He's a good fighter,but hasn't really been challenged in a while.

All I thought when the Leitus (or whatever his name is =D) guy kept lying on the floor was that if that was in Japan he would have been stomped to **** by the end of the 3rd.

[Qwark]

Silva needs some better competition or people are going to lose interest.The crowd booed him last night.He's a good fighter,but hasn't really been challenged in a while.
I heard Anderson is going back up to 205 to fight someone challenging.

[Rolandicus]

That would be nice. Griffin,Evans,Machida.All of these guys would be challenging for Silva.

[Qwark]

That would be nice. Griffin,Evans,Machida.All of these guys would be challenging for Silva.
This is perfect, Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin has been confirmed for UFC 101.

Here's the link
http://sherdog.com/news/news/silva-griffin-confirmed-for-ufc-101-17218

[Rolandicus]

Pacqiaou-Hatton results below.








Pacqiaou absolutely destroyed Hatton in 2 rounds.Knocked him out!That guy is unstoppable right now!!

[jackx289]

If you are into submissions there is a pretty decent one to finish Jorge Masvidal vs. Toby Imada at Bellator 4

[Rolandicus]

If you are into submissions there is a pretty decent one to finish Jorge Masvidal vs. Toby Imada at Bellator 4

Here's a video of the submission.

YouTube - Bellator Fighting Championships V - Imada v. Masvidal - Submission of the Year

That is one of the best submissions I've seen.An inverted triangle!!!

And here is a video of an awesome knockout by Yahir Reyes.

YouTube - Bellator VI Highlight - Yahir Reyes' Spinning Backfist KOs Estevan Payan

That's one nasty spinning backfist.

[jackx289]

And here is a video of an awesome knockout by Yahir Reyes.

YouTube - Bellator VI Highlight - Yahir Reyes' Spinning Backfist KOs Estevan Payan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfgLnFrvxs)

That's one nasty spinning backfist.

I saw this yesterday. This new Bellator company has some pretty good results.

[jackx289]

A double post to bump. Just to let fight fans know that Fedor will be fighting at the next Affliction.

[Qwark]

A double post to bump. Just to let fight fans know that Fedor will be fighting at the next Affliction.

Who's he fighting? Josh Barnette comes to mind.

[jackx289]

Affliction III
Date: Aug 01, 2009
Location: Anaheim, Calif.
Venue: Honda Center
Broadcast: PPV

* Champ Fedor Emelianenko vs. Josh Barnett (for WAMMA heavyweight title)*
* Vitor Belfort vs. Gegard Mousasi*
* Paul Buentello vs. Tim Sylvia*
* Dan Lauzon vs. TBA*


Source: http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/page/3/

[Qwark]

Affliction III
Date: Aug 01, 2009
Location: Anaheim, Calif.
Venue: Honda Center
Broadcast: PPV

* Champ Fedor Emelianenko vs. Josh Barnett (for WAMMA heavyweight title)*
* Vitor Belfort vs. Gegard Mousasi*
* Paul Buentello vs. Tim Sylvia*
* Dan Lauzon vs. TBA*


Source: http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/page/3/


Thanks man, that's a good card.:)

[jackx289]

I just watched three fights from DREAM 9.

*Fight spoilers below*







Mayhem's title fight ended in a no contest as mayhem kicked the guy in the end when he was down and the blood kept flowing so was eventually stopped. It was called as accidently and although I wanted mayhem to win I can't tell how it is accidently and also when did DREAM stop kicks to the head?

Also I saw Bob Sapp's fight and he is a big guy but was made to tap so props to the other guy.

The final fight I saw was with the Jose Cansesco(sp?) and I am surprised they let him fight after he said he had no training and the only person in his corner was his girlfriend but hey. The guy he was against was over 7 foot and destroyed him in the first round.

[Rolandicus]

Yeah I saw the Canseco fight against Hung Mann Choi.He needs to stick to baseball.Choi is HUGE but is not that talented.Fedor submitted him in less than 2 minutes if I remember correctly.
As for Bob Sapp,he's got his hands full fighting Bobby Lashley next.
Now I'm gonna finish watching the rest of Dream 9.

[Qwark]

Someone needs to put Mark Coleman in a retirement home. He seriously thinks he's a bad match-up for Lyoto Machida (talk about being senile).:(

Here is the link:

http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Mark-Coleman-calls-out-Lyoto-Machida.html

[Drivebyfm]

Pacqiaou-Hatton results below.








Pacqiaou absolutely destroyed Hatton in 2 rounds.Knocked him out!That guy is unstoppable right now!!

Whats happening with haton now?

[lufc2k9]

Amir Khan v Andreas Kotelnik on 27th june
hope khan gets knocked the f*** out

Klitschko vs. Haye on 20th june
thats gonna be a right fight

[Rolandicus]

Whats happening with haton now?

Pondering retirement last I heard.

[Drivebyfm]

Pondering retirement last I heard.

Same, wondered if anybody heard what he actually did in the end.

[jackx289]

Kimbo Slice is in TUF 10 or at least tried out for it. Not too sure whetehr Bobby Lashley ias also in it or is sticking to the route he had already taken.

[Qwark]

Hope Kimbo gets destroyed (again).

Strikeforce: Lawler vs Shields was pretty cool.:)

[Rolandicus]

Strikeforce last night was entertaining,and a little suprising.Results below.



Brett Rodgers knocked out Arlovski in 20 seconds.Jake Shields submitted Robbie Lawler in the 1st by guillotene.Nick Diaz destroyed Scott Smith with punches before submitting him in the 3rd.
I expected Diaz and Shields to win,just not so decisively.And the Rodgers-Arlovski fight was a shocker.I expected a much closer fight.Arlovski needs to re-evaluate a few things before he fights again.

REMINDER:Uriah Faber and Mike Brown fight again tonight.I hope Brown whips his ass again!

[Qwark]

WEC 41 was an absolutely amazing card.:D

[jackx289]

Brown v Faber was a good watch. A war.

[Rolandicus]

Yeah,too bad Faber broke his hand.It would have been much better.I'd like to see them fight again in the future.

[BlackMagik]

What do you guys or gals think of Carano vs. Cyborg in August? Just curious.

[Rolandicus]

I think it's gonna be a good fight.I'd like to see Carano win,though I think she will be tested like never before.In the end I think Santos will win,but it really could go either way.Depends on who trains harder.Gina looked a little winded in her last fight as did Cyborg,who couldn't make weight.

[BlackMagik]

I want Carano to win as well, and I also believe this will be her toughest test by far. I think it will come down to who trains harder and wants it more. They both have had trouble cutting weight at times, which I would guess, compared to a man, is harder for women to do. Around that time of the month, women naturally retain more water and other body necessities. Of course, all speculation on my part being a dude. lol

[Rolandicus]

Did anyone see the Tim Silvia-Ray Mercer fight? Silv ia should be embarassed!He got knocked out in 10 seconds.I think he bit off a little more than he can handle by thinking his boxing skill was better.Putting a puncher like Mercer in the smaller,lighter MMA gloves was not to the advantage of Silvia.He may have had a better chance had they been wearing boxing gloves,as was originally intended.

Silvia has been removed from the August Affliction card by the way.Insult to injury.That would have been a much bigger payday.

[BlackMagik]

I did not see it but I read about it. People were claiming Tim was a top 10 heavy if not top 5...and making a joke of MMA. Boxing and MMA are two different sports entirely. The training is different, as is the skill set required. Yes, MMA fighters do box but never at the level of a true boxer, as you pointed out saying Tim bit off more than he could chew.

Either way, I would have been entirely embarrassed if that were me. An older, past his prime athlete against a younger, just a few years past being a title holder?? I think it makes a mockery of his entire career, sorry to say.

[Qwark]

Did anyone see the Tim Silvia-Ray Mercer fight? Silv ia should be embarassed!He got knocked out in 10 seconds.I think he bit off a little more than he can handle by thinking his boxing skill was better.Putting a puncher like Mercer in the smaller,lighter MMA gloves was not to the advantage of Silvia.He may have had a better chance had they been wearing boxing gloves,as was originally intended.

Silvia has been removed from the August Affliction card by the way.Insult to injury.That would have been a much bigger payday.


Yeah, that was hard to watch, also why was Sylvia so out of shape? I heard he weighed in at around 311 lbs!

Edit: Anyone else catch UFC 99?

[BlackMagik]

311?? If he did, that is shocking. He is or was a lanky, long heavyweight. Never overly built but hey...it happens.

I didn't see UFC 99...I try to read up on everything though.

[Qwark]

311?? If he did, that is shocking. He is or was a lanky, long heavyweight. Never overly built but hey...it happens.

I didn't see UFC 99...I try to read up on everything though.

Here's a link to an article discussing the bout if it interests you:
http://sherdog.com/news/news/Tim-ber-Mercer-KOs-Sylvia-in-9-Seconds-17961

[BlackMagik]

Thanks for the link! He really must have felt he would not be challenged...I guess. Talk about a fall from grace so to speak.

[Rolandicus]

The Ultimate Fighter finale tomorrow has some good fights scheduled.Just a reminder.It's FREE too.:)

[Qwark]

Diego vs Guida was completely insane! Guida has a hell of a chin, he should have been knocked out cold with that head kick.

[BlackMagik]

Diego vs Guida was completely insane! Guida has a hell of a chin, he should have been knocked out cold with that head kick.

I love fights like Diego vs Guida...but I get the feeling fighters are going for more strikes at the expense of power, thus leading to wars like that without a knockout. Just my opinion.

[Qwark]

Found a great video on youtube today, it's a fan made UFC 100 vid. Trust me it is awesome.

YouTube - UFC 100 Introduction

[BlackMagik]

Nice vid...a few things I thought of as I watched it.

1. I've been watching MMA for a long, long time.
2. I loved when Chuck knocked out Tito. Like it made me happy inside.
3. When Randy beat Tim, I was so jumping up and down.
4. Lesnar may be new...but he is one scary beast.
5. I love MMA.

:)

[jackx289]

That was a good video.

Does anyone else agree that the $30-$40 price tage on the pay per view bobby Lashley v Bob Sapp is highly overpriced considering the organisation and the other fights?

[Rolandicus]

Does anyone else agree that the $30-$40 price tage on the pay per view bobby Lashley v Bob Sapp is highly overpriced considering the organisation and the other fights?

Definitely!!The other fights are meh,and the Lashley/Sapp fight probably won't go past the first round.I wouldn't pay $20 to see it.

[BlackMagik]

Does anyone else agree that the $30-$40 price tage on the pay per view bobby Lashley v Bob Sapp is highly overpriced considering the organisation and the other fights?

I certainly will not be ordering this...I love MMA but I'll save my hard earn dollars for better!

[Qwark]

Does anyone else agree that the $30-$40 price tage on the pay per view bobby Lashley v Bob Sapp is highly overpriced considering the organisation and the other fights?

Agreed, way too expensive for a mediocre card. I'll just download it off the internet.;)

[jackx289]

I just watched Sapp v Lashley and well I will right in white so as not to spoil it. Highlight to read it:

Sapp got taken down and ground and pounded in the first round. Sapp taps due to strikes and the ref doesn;t see it. So Sapp takes more of a beating and then the ref see's him tap. Lashley wins in the first. Nothing spectacular to be honest


Tom Atencio v Randy Hedderick was a great fight much better than the main event.

Pedro Rizzo v Gilbert Yvel was also a decent fight although elbows that were probably illegal so I am not too sure on the referees employed by this company.

[Qwark]

The Lashley vs. Sapp fight was boring as hell.

[Qwark]

YouTube - Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva: Legendary Highlights

[jackx289]

That was a pretty awesome video.

[Qwark]

That was a pretty awesome video.

Yeah, it was made by the same guy who made the UFC 100 vid. Here's his channel link if you're intrested: http://www.youtube.com/user/KingAtRock1

[jackx289]

Yeah, it was made by the same guy who made the UFC 100 vid. Here's his channel link if you're intrested: http://www.youtube.com/user/KingAtRock1


Cheers I subscribed incase he makes anymore.

[BlackMagik]

I enjoyed seeing Tito run away most I think. I never liked him so that is a little biased. Either way, the videos have been pretty sweet. :)

[Qwark]

I enjoyed seeing Tito run away most I think. I never liked him so that is a little biased. Either way, the videos have been pretty sweet. :)

I actually like Tito. He's only lost to top fighters, and I believe he'll beat Babalu if they fight.

[BlackMagik]

Well, I did like on the TUF show. But his attitude towards Dana White was what shut me off. He was supposed to fight him(Tito begged for it or so I read) and embarrassed the entire UFC in front of the athletic commission by no-showing. I give him props for being a decent fighter, but as a person, I like seeing him get beat sometimes. Just my two cents.

Anyone watch the start of the 100 greatest fights or whatever they called it on Spike? I am going to check it out now.

[InhumaneSniper]

UFC 100 in less than a week!! That ****'s loaded!!

[BlackMagik]

I wish I knew a place to watch the fights for free on the net...or even at a lower cost being strapped for cash. Anyone know of anything?

[jackx289]

I wish I knew a place to watch the fights for free on the net...or even at a lower cost being strapped for cash. Anyone know of anything?

Check your PM's

[Qwark]

Another great video:

YouTube - NEW Fedor Emelianenko Highlights (Must See!)

[BlackMagik]

Anyone watching the 100 top fights on Spike? I am finding it to be interesting with the commentary by the fighters.

[Rolandicus]

Anyone watching the 100 top fights on Spike? I am finding it to be interesting with the commentary by the fighters.

Yeah,me and a friend were discussing that at work today.Have they shown the Diaz-Riggs fight from UFC 79 yet?It was a good fight.I haven't seen them all so I don't know if they showed it.I was asking because I'm looking foward to them fighting again,should be a good fight.

[jackx289]

I saw the best fights from 100-75 are these shows like one a week or one a night or what?

[Qwark]

I saw the best fights from 100-75 are these shows like one a week or one a night or what?

Should be once a night

[BlackMagik]

As Qwark said, it is once a night, for all of this week I believe. To Rolandicus, I do not think the Diaz-Riggs fight was in there yet, though I did not watch last night's yet. I think I am one night behind, maybe two. I did see what I still say was one of the best knockouts ever between Smith-Sell.

[Qwark]

Is anyone else mad that Frank Shamrock vs Tito Ortiz isn't going to be shown on the 100 greatest fights just because Dana doesn't like either of them? Dana sure is a pathetic piece of crap.

[InhumaneSniper]

UFC 100 tomorrow!!!

[Qwark]

UFC 100 tomorrow!!!

Let me help you out with that!
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[BlackMagik]

Is anyone else mad that Frank Shamrock vs Tito Ortiz isn't going to be shown on the 100 greatest fights just because Dana doesn't like either of them? Dana sure is a pathetic piece of crap.

haha. Sorry but I like Dana over Tito any day. Dana is brash and some hate the way he treats fighters, but I like the guy.

[Qwark]

haha. Sorry but I like Dana over Tito any day. Dana is brash and some hate the way he treats fighters, but I like the guy.

I like Dana as a business man, he's done a lot for the sport, but to undermine a fighters achievements just because he hates them, is just despicable. I'm ****ed because that fight deserves to be on the list and people were not even allowed to vote for it. The only fights involving Tito were fights that he lost and since Frank never lost any of his fights in the UFC, he was exiled from the top 100 as well. Now do you see why I dislike him as a person?

[BlackMagik]

I like Dana as a business man, he's done a lot for the sport, but to undermine a fighters achievements just because he hates them, is just despicable. I'm ****ed because that fight deserves to be on the list and people were not even allowed to vote for it. The only fights involving Tito were fights that he lost and since Frank never lost any of his fights in the UFC, he was exiled from the top 100 as well. Now do you see why I dislike him as a person?


I totally understand...but his hate for Tito is warrented in my eyes. I think I said it in a previous post but Tito begged him for a change to get in the cage with Dana. Dana agreed and then Tito chickened out. Then the way Tito played it like the UFC favored Chuck over him and stuff. He just came off as a baby to a lot of people. I cannot speak for Frank though.

[Qwark]

I totally understand...but his hate for Tito is warrented in my eyes. I think I said it in a previous post but Tito begged him for a change to get in the cage with Dana. Dana agreed and then Tito chickened out. Then the way Tito played it like the UFC favored Chuck over him and stuff. He just came off as a baby to a lot of people. I cannot speak for Frank though.

Yes, that was a unacceptable on Tito's part but that does not warrant his hatred for Frank or Maurice Smith. Oh, let's not forget how he constantly talks about Fedor not being a great fighter just because he won't sign with him.

[Rolandicus]

I agree with you Qwark.I think he's a total douchebag.He talks trash about Tom Atencio when he fights,yet you don't see Dana fighting.He talks trash about almost any fight orginization that isn't UFC.I think he's holding the UFC back if anything.WAMMA is out there to show who the best in the world is,yet he won't let his fighters prove they are the best.I think letting his fighters fight other organizations to unify belts would be awesome,and would promote the UFC if his fighters won,unless he's unsure if they truely have the best fighters in the World.Why not prove it?There is plenty to go around,but he's to greedy to realize that he is shortchanging the fighters and the organization.

[BlackMagik]

Yes, that was a unacceptable on Tito's part but that does not warrant his hatred for Frank or Maurice Smith. Oh, let's not forget how he constantly talks about Fedor not being a great fighter just because he won't sign with him.




I don't even know who Maurice Smith is. lol. He talks smack about Fedor for that reason alone and everyone knows it. I frankly would do the same because the UFC is the biggest organization AND we as fans want Fedor to fight other top fighters. Dana is a business man but he is also a fan. I think that is why I like when he speaks up. I highly doubt he would say a word about a fighter who was willing to put up or shut up if you know what I mean.

[Qwark]

I don't even know who Maurice Smith is. lol. He talks smack about Fedor for that reason alone and everyone knows it. I frankly would do the same because the UFC is the biggest organization AND we as fans want Fedor to fight other top fighters. Dana is a business man but he is also a fan. I think that is why I like when he speaks up. I highly doubt he would say a word about a fighter who was willing to put up or shut up if you know what I mean.

Thanks Rolandicus. BlackMagik, what do you mean? Fedor has been fighting top competition forever. Fedor at one point considered signing with the UFC but the contract basically demanded that he be a slave until he loses. Maurice Smith is a former UFC heavywieght champ.

[jackx289]

Thanks Rolandicus. BlackMagik, what do you mean? Fedor has been fighting top competition forever. Fedor at one point considered signing with the UFC but the contract basically demanded that he be a slave until he loses. Maurice Smith is a former UFC heavywieght champ.


I was under the impression that Fedor is not in the UFC simply because the UFC would restrict him from competing in any sambo tournaments.

Also to add my two cents I don't like Tito in general so I am glad he left the MMA scene as a fighter. He is/was a commentator for I think it was affliction but I like the fact he doesn't step in the ring again. Not really sure why I just don't like the guy.

[Rolandicus]

UFC is the biggest organization

And that is part of the problem.They've grown too arrogant.Organizations like Bellator,Affliction,WEC and Strikeforce are putting on good fights all the time.Sure the UFC 100 card is stacked, but they're not all that way,and I won't pay 40 or 50 dollars everytime to watch the main event and an underwhelming undercard.ALOT of good fighters aren't in the UFC.
I like watching the UFC,I just don't like the way Dana White is running things.

[BlackMagik]

I meant that Fedor chose not to sign with the UFC because he wanted freedom to fight wherever. I get that...but why would the UFC, arguably the most recognized MMA organization, be cool with that? If I was Dana, I would demand that my fighters were exclusive to my brand...I do not want to help out Affliction or Elite XC that has now faltered or other brands. Other promotions do not have near the success the UFC has had, so they would lose if they allowed their fighters to fight elsewhere or vice versa. That being said, it works both ways. Fedor doesn't want to sign with the UFC so he will ultimately lose out on fighting some good fighters. That was my point. I was not implying Fedor has not fought anyone worthy at all.

Edit: Zuffa owns WEC...just a heads up.

[Qwark]

I was under the impression that Fedor is not in the UFC simply because the UFC would restrict him from competing in any sambo tournaments.

Also to add my two cents I don't like Tito in general so I am glad he left the MMA scene as a fighter. He is/was a commentator for I think it was affliction but I like the fact he doesn't step in the ring again. Not really sure why I just don't like the guy.

Sambo was not the only reason, Dana gave him a contract that stated if he were to become champion he would not be able to retire. So long as he has the belt the contract would automatically renew itself, but if he were to lose a fight the contract could be torn up regardless of whether or not he still had fights left on the contract.

Edit: I forgot, Tito is not done fighting, or so he says. I believe he is negotiating a deal with Strikeforce.

[Rolandicus]

I just watched an interview on Inside MMA(aired 7-10-09) and Bas Rutten asked Fedor if he would ever fight in the UFC and Fedor said no because of the way the contracts are structured.

On a side note,who do you guys think will win the St. Pierre - Alves fight?I'm looking foward to that one more than Lesner - Mir.

[Qwark]

I just watched an interview on Inside MMA(aired 7-10-09) and Bas Rutten asked Fedor if he would ever fight in the UFC and Fedor said no because of the way the contracts are structured.

On a side note,who do you guys think will win the St. Pierre - Alves fight?I'm looking foward to that one more than Lesner - Mir.


I think GSP beats Alves. As for the other fights I'm pulling for Hendo, Akiyama, Fitch and Mir.


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[jackx289]

UK fans can watch UFC live for free at 3am GMT here:

http://uk.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.ComPlayeruk

[Qwark]

If you haven't seen UFC 100 don't watch the following:














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[BlackMagik]

I saw the HW title fight but did not catch what Brock said. Anyone know something similar to what he said??

[OldBayFries]

I saw the HW title fight but did not catch what Brock said. Anyone know something similar to what he said??


Brock said something about how he's going to go home and drink Coors light because Bud light wont pay him and how he may go home and get on top of his wife.

[Qwark]

I saw the HW title fight but did not catch what Brock said. Anyone know something similar to what he said??

He walked up to Frank and said "Talk all the **** you want now!"

[BlackMagik]

He walked up to Frank and said "Talk all the **** you want now!"


Outside of what he said about his wife, I see no issue with what he said and did. I mean, Frank Mir is an arrogant dude. He is not a loud mouth but lots of people were talking junk about Brock because of the steroid use and coming from WWE. I say all is fair in love and war...but he should have kept the comment about his wife to himself.

[jackx289]

Outside of what he said about his wife, I see no issue with what he said and did. I mean, Frank Mir is an arrogant dude. He is not a loud mouth but lots of people were talking junk about Brock because of the steroid use and coming from WWE. I say all is fair in love and war...but he should have kept the comment about his wife to himself.

I didn't it. Once the fight is done whatever he said, whatever he felt I do not think he should have got in Mir's face like that. And the not touching the gloves it's just not needed or sportsman like.

Also UFC 100 was amazing. Hendo v Bisping. I am from the UK but I am so glad he shut his mouth.

[InhumaneSniper]

I believe he said something about how Mir had a horseshoe in his ass after the last fight, and tonight I pulled it out and kicked his ass with it. Dana White is ****ed with him though. He's not even a good fighter. He's just gigantic.

Fedor will kick his ass and Dana said he will get Fedor under contract and we will see Fedor v. Lesnar.

Edit: Here's the link. (http://www.cbssports.com/mma/story/11950891/rss)

[BlackMagik]

I didn't it. Once the fight is done whatever he said, whatever he felt I do not think he should have got in Mir's face like that. And the not touching the gloves it's just not needed or sportsman like.

Also UFC 100 was amazing. Hendo v Bisping. I am from the UK but I am so glad he shut his mouth.

I didn't like the no touching gloves either...but let's be real. A number of fighters do not touch gloves and are they ever pointed out like Lesnar? Not that I have ever seen. I didn't really notice that he got in Mir's face, but if he did, that is shameful. I am not endorsing anything Brock did. Honestly, if someone can kick his ass they should. However, in fairness, he has taken a lot of slack because the UFC let him have a title shot that he never had to work for. And I didn't watch the Bisping vs. Henderson fight but I know Dan won. Why do people call him Hendo?

[Qwark]

I didn't like the no touching gloves either...but let's be real. A number of fighters do not touch gloves and are they ever pointed out like Lesnar? Not that I have ever seen. I didn't really notice that he got in Mir's face, but if he did, that is shameful. I am not endorsing anything Brock did. Honestly, if someone can kick his ass they should. However, in fairness, he has taken a lot of slack because the UFC let him have a title shot that he never had to work for. And I didn't watch the Bisping vs. Henderson fight but I know Dan won. Why do people call him Hendo?

Completely agree with you, Brock is great fighter but his personality is just abrasive and people are turned away from it. I, for one, could care less how he acts as long as he puts on a good fight. You don't hear people like Rampage being called out on things like that. As for "Hendo" I have no idea. Maybe Kenflo knows something about it.;)

[BlackMagik]

lol. I'll look up Hendo and see. I have watched fighting forever, but I was not much of a Pride watcher.

As far as Brock, my girlfriend was the one to say he got in Mir's face. I thought Mir was out of line at first until I asked in this thread. I just want good fights and I think Brock will bring it all every time given his amatuer background and motivation...so I am cool with that.

[Qwark]

lol. I'll look up Hendo and see. I have watched fighting forever, but I was not much of a Pride watcher.

As far as Brock, my girlfriend was the one to say he got in Mir's face. I thought Mir was out of line at first until I asked in this thread. I just want good fights and I think Brock will bring it all every time given his amatuer background and motivation...so I am cool with that.

I believe Brock was just mad because of all the things Mir said during the countdown, I'd be ****ed too. If you haven't seen a lot of Pride you should look around on the internet or just buy the DVD's, its too awesome not to watch!

http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/%7Eerikmartin/PRIDE_FC_logo%5B1%5D.jpg

[BlackMagik]

I believe Brock was just mad because of all the things Mir said during the countdown, I'd be ****ed too. If you haven't seen a lot of Pride you should look around on the internet or just buy the DVD's, its too awesome not to watch!

I think so too(concerning Brock). From what I have seen and Dana hinted at it, he is nothing like we saw...and I guess I will have to check out Pride because I only caught pieces in the years Pride was popular. So what fights are coming up next?

[Qwark]

I think so too(concerning Brock). From what I have seen and Dana hinted at it, he is nothing like we saw...and I guess I will have to check out Pride because I only caught pieces in the years Pride was popular. So what fights are coming up next?

Affliction: Trilogy (August, 1) looks stacked with Fedor vs Barnett, Gomi vs Oliveira, Belfort vs Santiago and Babalu vs Musasi.
Bj Penn vs Kenny Florian and Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin are scheduled to fight on on August eighth for UFC 101: Declaration.

August is going to be a great month fo MMA.

[BlackMagik]

Thanks for the info. Any thoughts on Silva vs. Griffin? That fight intrigues me because I want to see Silva pushed and Griffin should do that.

[Qwark]

Thanks for the info. Any thoughts on Silva vs. Griffin? That fight intrigues me because I want to see Silva pushed and Griffin should do that.

The fight is going to be amazing, Forrest can take punch, he's got a solid ground game and great cardio. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes home a unanimous decision. No one thought that he would beat Rua, but hey, anything can happen. Oh and I forgot Dream 10 is next week (July 20).

[jackx289]

I think the name Hendo was just a shortening of Henderson and it suited him as he was fighting in Japan but I am probably wrong.

If you want to watch Pride try to fight fights before Zuffa purchased it. That way you can see the head stomps etc which at the start I wasn't a fan of but they grew on me. Also make sure you watch the two Rampage v W. Silva from PRIDE if my memory serves me well they were some very good fights.

As with the Fedor coming to the UFC I just don;t see it happening, not really sure why I just have the feeling he will stay signed with M1 Global or Affliction or WAMMA whoever they are all the same I think, considering he holds the WAMMA Heavyweight title.

Also has anyone heard anything about a rematch for Mayhem Miller after the no contest?

[Qwark]

I think the name Hendo was just a shortening of Henderson and it suited him as he was fighting in Japan but I am probably wrong.

If you want to watch Pride try to fight fights before Zuffa purchased it. That way you can see the head stomps etc which at the start I wasn't a fan of but they grew on me. Also make sure you watch the two Rampage v W. Silva from PRIDE if my memory serves me well they were some very good fights.

As with the Fedor coming to the UFC I just don;t see it happening, not really sure why I just have the feeling he will stay signed with M1 Global or Affliction or WAMMA whoever they are all the same I think, considering he holds the WAMMA Heavyweight title.

Also has anyone heard anything about a rematch for Mayhem Miller after the no contest?

I haven't heard anything about Mayhem, but if you find something out please share! Jack is right Magik, you should definitely watch the older PRIDE fights first.

[Rolandicus]

Affliction: Trilogy (August, 1) looks stacked with Fedor vs Barnett, Gomi vs Oliveira, Belfort vs Santiago and Babalu vs Musasi.
Bj Penn vs Kenny Florian and Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin are scheduled to fight on on August eighth for UFC 101: Declaration.

August is going to be a great month fo MMA.




Don't forget the Gina Carrano - Christine Santos fight.That should be a good fight,with a decent undercard too.Plus it's free if you get Showtime.:)

[BlackMagik]

Don't forget the Gina Carrano - Christine Santos fight.That should be a good fight,with a decent undercard too.Plus it's free if you get Showtime.:)

I hate that I do not get Showtime. lol. And Vs. for that matter.

[Qwark]

Don't forget the Gina Carrano - Christine Santos fight.That should be a good fight,with a decent undercard too.Plus it's free if you get Showtime.:)

Thanks! I forgot about that. On to the reason I came here, Jose Aldo vs. Mike Brown has been announced for WEC 45 on November 11 for the featherweight championship!
Here's the link: http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9165&zoneid=2

[BlackMagik]

Some nice fights coming up honestly. :) Hope it gets ever better!

[Qwark]

Has anyone else seen DREAM 10?

[Qwark]

Affliction main event doomed! Josh Barnett tested positive for banned substances and Tom Attencio is currently looking for a replacement to fight Fedor. Here's the link to the story:http://sherdog.com/news/news/confirmed-barnett-out-of-fedor-fight-18667

[BlackMagik]

Affliction main event doomed! Josh Barnett tested positive for banned substances and Tom Attencio is currently looking for a replacement to fight Fedor. Here's the link to the story:http://sherdog.com/news/news/confirmed-barnett-out-of-fedor-fight-18667

Do you think this could really affect Fedor's upcoming contract situations??

[WonkyBilly boy]

Affliction main event doomed! Josh Barnett tested positive for banned substances and Tom Attencio is currently looking for a replacement to fight Fedor. Here's the link to the story:http://sherdog.com/news/news/confirmed-barnett-out-of-fedor-fight-18667

Lol for real? dam.

[Qwark]

Do you think this could really affect Fedor's upcoming contract situations??
Probably. I've heard he was signing with a new org anyways after this fight because it's the last on his contract.

[jackx289]

Probably. I've heard he was signing with a new org anyways after this fight because it's the last on his contract.


But then what happens to the WAMMA belt? I justr read about Barnett failiung the test and thought I would come and share. To be honest it's just stupid of him to put it simply. Now I went on holiday and was reading a few MMA magazines and so I shall share with you some things that may or may not be of interest and some that may or may not spark a discussion =D

According to Mayem's Twitter he will be fighting Jacare for a third time in September. This will proabaly take place at DREAM 11 which will also have the Super Hulk Semi Finals (source - MMA unltd)

Tim Sylvia is contemplating boxing as a career although he says he doesn't want to leave MMA (source - fighters only)

There are rumours that Shaquille O'neill will be having an MMA fight as he made comments on his twitter about Chuck Lidell and now about Hong Man Choi. (source - Fightsport)

Fightsport also spoke a lot about the M1 Challenge and mentioned the M1 Selection. Has anybody here been following the M1 events this year?

Also MMA is growing greatly in China with the corportion called Art of War whuch, as far as I can tell, allows elbows and head stomps etc so is a mix of PRIDE rules and UFC rules. Either way it was a massive event that had a lot of money put into it. There is a 6 - 8 page section on it in fightsport magazine July 2009 edition.

So that was some useless information there just thought it might interest some on you =D

[BlackMagik]

About Sylvia...he was just knocked out by an OLD boxer, no? I am hoping I didn't dream that happened or I am looking like a real moron right now.

And Shaq...he has talked about getting into MMA. I am not sure if it would be serious or not. I know he has trained a little. He has a tv show coming out where he is going to challenge other athletes at their respective sports, however, I do not remember MMA being one of the sports. I guess we'll see.

I do not get any fighting news like you shared...but the organization in China sounds interesting. I guess the rule changes would make anything a little different, and thus, entertaining for a bit.

[Qwark]

But then what happens to the WAMMA belt? I justr read about Barnett failiung the test and thought I would come and share. To be honest it's just stupid of him to put it simply. Now I went on holiday and was reading a few MMA magazines and so I shall share with you some things that may or may not be of interest and some that may or may not spark a discussion =D

According to Mayem's Twitter he will be fighting Jacare for a third time in September. This will proabaly take place at DREAM 11 which will also have the Super Hulk Semi Finals (source - MMA unltd)

Tim Sylvia is contemplating boxing as a career although he says he doesn't want to leave MMA (source - fighters only)

There are rumours that Shaquille O'neill will be having an MMA fight as he made comments on his twitter about Chuck Lidell and now about Hong Man Choi. (source - Fightsport)

Fightsport also spoke a lot about the M1 Challenge and mentioned the M1 Selection. Has anybody here been following the M1 events this year?

Also MMA is growing greatly in China with the corportion called Art of War whuch, as far as I can tell, allows elbows and head stomps etc so is a mix of PRIDE rules and UFC rules. Either way it was a massive event that had a lot of money put into it. There is a 6 - 8 page section on it in fightsport magazine July 2009 edition.

So that was some useless information there just thought it might interest some on you =D

Thanks for the info, very interesting. It's nice to hear some news on Miller, but I have no idea what happens to the WAMMA belt, sorry. No Magik, you didn't dream that up:). Oh yeah, Shaq has been training in MMA for the past ten years, so I'm sure he would do quite well. Holly crap! I completely forgot, Wanderlei Silva vs. Micheal Bisping is being negotiated for UFC 105! Almost feel sorry for Bisping, having to fight two heavy handed strikers back to back. Source:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15605/michael-bisping-vs-wanderlei-silva-in-the-works-for-main-event-of-ufc-105-in-november.mma

[BlackMagik]

Thanks for the info, very interesting. It's nice to hear some news on Miller, but I have no idea what happens to the WAMMA belt, sorry. No Magik, you didn't dream that up:). Oh yeah, Shaq has been training in MMA for the past ten years, so I'm sure he would do quite well. Holly crap! I completely forgot, Wanderlei Silva vs. Micheal Bisping is being negotiated for UFC 105! Almost feel sorry for Bisping, having to fight two heavy handed strikers back to back. Source:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15605/michael-bisping-vs-wanderlei-silva-in-the-works-for-main-event-of-ufc-105-in-november.mma

I didn't think I dreamt it, but if he really wants to box, I suggest quitting fighting all together. He has one too many bricks missing already. I wouldn't feel sorry for Bisping...he talks a lot of crap so it is karma for him in some ways. lol. If it happens, it will be a good fight though. Nice info!

[Rolandicus]

I wouldn't feel sorry for Bisping...he talks a lot of crap so it is karma for him in some ways.

My thoughts exactly.All that mouth will only get you in trouble,maybe he learned his lesson.

@jack : I've watched most of the M1 challanges this year.Some good fights,showcasing a lot of fighters I had never heard of.I've not been too impressed by the US team though.They show the challenges every Friday on HDNet.Check it out if you can.

[Qwark]

I didn't think I dreamt it, but if he really wants to box, I suggest quitting fighting all together. He has one too many bricks missing already. I wouldn't feel sorry for Bisping...he talks a lot of crap so it is karma for him in some ways. lol. If it happens, it will be a good fight though. Nice info!
That's why I said almost.:D

[BlackMagik]

Don't get me wrong. I think Bisbing is a decent fighter, but he has a big enough mouth for 10 fighters. It gets old quick. I am drawn to fighters who let their actions speak alone but that is just me.

[Qwark]

Affliction: Trilogy, sadly, has been canceled due to Barnett's failed drug test.:(
Source:
http://sherdog.com/news/news/affliction-cancels-trilogy-18705

[jackx289]

Affliction: Trilogy, sadly, has been canceled due to Barnett's failed drug test.:(
Source:
http://sherdog.com/news/news/affliction-cancels-trilogy-18705

I was about to come and post this. It is a shame that one failed fighter can cause the whole show to be cancelled.

[Qwark]

I was about to come and post this. It is a shame that one failed fighter can cause the whole show to be cancelled.
A damn shame! The whole organization might go under.

Edit: Affliction folds. Source: http://mmajunkie.com/news/15625/affliction-folds-mma-promotion-will-sponsor-ufc.mma

[jackx289]

A damn shame! The whole organization might go under.

Edit: Affliction folds. Source: http://mmajunkie.com/news/15625/affliction-folds-mma-promotion-will-sponsor-ufc.mma

That's a shame although for some reason I was thinking they were only hosting three shows anyways. Not really sure why.

[BlackMagik]

Talk about a crazy turn of events. I feel sad, yet I am not all that surprised. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

[Qwark]

Yeah this sucks for Affliction, but this is great for the UFC. Think of all the fighters they'll sign. More big names, means more big events.

[BlackMagik]

That's what you get for making clothes and selling a simple t-shirt for over a hundred bucks. lol.

Edit: They have announced a new partnership with the UFC sometime last night. Interesting turn of events.

[Qwark]

Edit: They have announced a new partnership with the UFC sometime last night. Interesting turn of events.

Yeah they decided to become a sponsor. Seeing as how I'm bored, who do you guys think will win at UFC 101? Tell me your picks for the following fights:

Bj Penn vs Kenny Florian (Bj most likely will win though)
Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin
Amir Sadollah vs Johny Hendricks

(I want the person in blue to win.)

[Rolandicus]

I'll say Florian,Silva,and Sadollah(he's from VA so I'll root for him).
I'd like to see Forrest get the win,but Silva is badass.

[Qwark]

I'll say Florian,Silva,and Sadollah(he's from VA so I'll root for him).
I'd like to see Forrest get the win,but Silva is badass.

Badass indeed, but I always root for Forrest.

[jackx289]

Fedor announced yesterday that he is not signing with the UFC but is in fact headlining the EA MMA game that is set for release. UFC also have an announcement set for Friday.

Also I want Florian and Griffin to win but I think it will be BJ and Silva.

EDIT: I just saw Fedor may have signed with Strikeforce but I will have a look around.

[BlackMagik]

This may be a biased---slightly uninformed belief---but I think if Fedor signs anywhere else, he will never fight the best of the best. The HW division as not even that great in the UFC but I think that is where Fedor will have to go someday to be called the best. Just my thoughts.

[Rolandicus]

I dont see Fedor signing with the UFC unless they allow M-1 to co-promote the fights.Fedor is a stock holder in M-1,so he'll push for that type of deal.The UFC doesn't want to share, perhaps because they were burned by Pride back in the day.He may have gotten that deal with Strikeforce, but I can't find any confirmation, just rumors.

[Qwark]

This may be a biased---slightly uninformed belief---but I think if Fedor signs anywhere else, he will never fight the best of the best. The HW division as not even that great in the UFC but I think that is where Fedor will have to go someday to be called the best. Just my thoughts.

I don't think Fedor has to prove anything now a days but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see him in the UFC. To be honest, I lost some respect for him after he turned the contract down (considering it wasn't so strict this time around). It would have been sweet to see a fight with Couture, Carwin, Gonzaga, or Mir. Not to mention a rematch with Mirko! Atleast Tito is coming back to the UFC (I'm probably the only one here who likes him though :)). and we get to see Rich Franklin vs Vitor Belfort at UFC 103 so I'm happy.

[jackx289]

I think it was just a rumour about Strikeforce. I would like to see him fight in DREAM not really sure why.

[Rolandicus]

I think it was just a rumour about Strikeforce. I would like to see him fight in DREAM not really sure why.

That's a possibility.He already fought at one of the DREAM tournaments in an exibition with Shinya Aoki.If they have a heavyweight tournament I would love to see him in it.

[BlackMagik]

I agree with the respect of Fedor. I think the deal was a good one and they want too much. I do not see the UFC co-promoting though...personally, I think it is all just red tape because, if Fedor were to lose, he could no longer say he was one questionable loss on his record. If I was the big company, would I co-promote and give some of my hard earned product away to help the little guy? No way.

Oh and Tito...I still dislike the guy but it was nice to see him come back to the UFC. It should allow him to retire in the UFC, which is right regardless of what I think of the guy. Is he still with the adult star? lol.

[Qwark]

Is he still with the adult star? lol.
Yup, I heard they have two kids. I remember watching that exhibition match that was pretty cool.

[InhumaneSniper]

Found this article on why Fedor isn't with UFC by now. I guess it wasn't Dana White's fault.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-fedorufc073109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[jackx289]

Yup, I heard they have two kids. I remember watching that exhibition match that was pretty cool.


Twins I think. And was that the one where he wins with an armbar because that was pretty decent.

[Qwark]

Twins I think. And was that the one where he wins with an armbar because that was pretty decent.
Was it an armbar? I thought it was a heel hook. Either way it was entertaining, and Inhumanesniper, thank you for the article, Finkelchtein can eat a steaming pile of ****.

[jackx289]

Was it an armbar? I thought it was a heel hook.

Yes I think you are right. Oh Sengoku 9 was recent although I don;t really follow any of that. I read that they also had an interest in Fedor and that Anderson Silva may be doing a boxing match when his contract with the UFC expires who knows. It was on Sherdog.com if you are interested.

EDIT
Well Fedor has signed with Strikeforce who will be copromoting with M1
Source: http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/fedor-signs-with-strikeforce-18883

[Qwark]

ah, you beat me to it jack.